Comments on: Cultured Perl Blog http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/ Just another Perl Hacker's blog Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:39:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mark.keating http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/#comment-106 mark.keating Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:38:27 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=44#comment-106 I like the idea and would probably contribute the occasional article. But I want to make these notes (also repeated in my Ironman Post this week :) ): 1. I generally use my mdk.per.ly blog for the same sort of things, but, it is an Ironman blog so I also try to focus an article that I think is suitable for that competition. So I would have some crossover but hopefully complimentary ones. 2. As to dagolden.com/doubi, you may be interested to hear we are building an aggregator (firstly it will aggregate/collect Ironman posts) that will be called all.things.per.ly (currently it is in a restricted testing state), and is based upon the Perlanet from the good Master Dave. If you want to know more hang out in #northwestengland.pm.org on irc.perl.org and ask questions. The idea is to eventually aggregate results based on a selection of criteria such as date, category, tag, topic, person etc. I like the idea and would probably contribute the occasional article. But I want to make these notes (also repeated in my Ironman Post this week :) ):
1. I generally use my mdk.per.ly blog for the same sort of things, but, it is an Ironman blog so I also try to focus an article that I think is suitable for that competition. So I would have some crossover but hopefully complimentary ones.
2. As to dagolden.com/doubi, you may be interested to hear we are building an aggregator (firstly it will aggregate/collect Ironman posts) that will be called all.things.per.ly (currently it is in a restricted testing state), and is based upon the Perlanet from the good Master Dave. If you want to know more hang out in #northwestengland.pm.org on irc.perl.org and ask questions. The idea is to eventually aggregate results based on a selection of criteria such as date, category, tag, topic, person etc.

]]> By: Doubi http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/#comment-105 Doubi Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:33:56 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=44#comment-105 Without anyone having laid it out more specifically yet, I think it'd be too hard to write continuously about "Perl Culture" as a whole, because it <em>is</em> so widely varied. Chris's comment above was the first thing to spark my interest. I think a blog aggregating news about the various sub-communities would be a good thing. Not just bugs squashed this week, but how projects are progressing, the state of Perl and open source IT generally in different cities and regions, ideas, worries, links with other projects, cool uses that have come up, that kind of thing. This approach could have a few benefits: <ul> <li><em>Delegation!</em> - Rather waiting for individual authors to step up, it'll mean you can head to specific IRC channels or mailing lists and ask them to contribute :-)</li> <li>It could draw more attention to various parts of the Perl ecosystem that deserve newcomers' attention from a programming point of view, but which might not otherwise be well signposted or accessible (Moose, POE, PDL etc).</li> <li>In showcasing sub-communities it could make people aware of subcultures which might suit their particular interests and personality.</li> <li>Finally, the push to put together a post for a Perl sub-community blog like this might encourage these sub-communities to get together once a week or fortnight and take stock and chat about how they're all feeling about the work. Which would be Nice.</li> </ul> That's my take on it. Chris +1, basically. Without anyone having laid it out more specifically yet, I think it’d be too hard to write continuously about “Perl Culture” as a whole, because it is so widely varied.
Chris’s comment above was the first thing to spark my interest. I think a blog aggregating news about the various sub-communities would be a good thing. Not just bugs squashed this week, but how projects are progressing, the state of Perl and open source IT generally in different cities and regions, ideas, worries, links with other projects, cool uses that have come up, that kind of thing. This approach could have a few benefits:

  • Delegation! – Rather waiting for individual authors to step up, it’ll mean you can head to specific IRC channels or mailing lists and ask them to contribute :-)
  • It could draw more attention to various parts of the Perl ecosystem that deserve newcomers’ attention from a programming point of view, but which might not otherwise be well signposted or accessible (Moose, POE, PDL etc).
  • In showcasing sub-communities it could make people aware of subcultures which might suit their particular interests and personality.
  • Finally, the push to put together a post for a Perl sub-community blog like this might encourage these sub-communities to get together once a week or fortnight and take stock and chat about how they’re all feeling about the work. Which would be Nice.

That’s my take on it. Chris +1, basically.

]]> By: chris.prather.org http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/#comment-104 chris.prather.org Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:33:16 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=44#comment-104 I would be interested in both reading and writing for a blog like that. I'm not in a position where I feel I could organize others, but a weekly (or biweekly) post about the communities I participate in (Moose, POE, irc.perl.org, Orlando.pm/Dahut.pm/PM Leaders, Conference Organizers) I could easily contribute to. -Chris I would be interested in both reading and writing for a blog like that. I’m not in a position where I feel I could organize others, but a weekly (or biweekly) post about the communities I participate in (Moose, POE, irc.perl.org, Orlando.pm/Dahut.pm/PM Leaders, Conference Organizers) I could easily contribute to.
-Chris

]]> By: Dave Cross http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/#comment-103 Dave Cross Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:25:17 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=44#comment-103 "A blog about cultured programming in general sounds really interesting!" This is one of the problems we had the last time I tried to get this going. It was hard to get agreement as to what "Perl culture" was. I'm pretty sure that the most interesting interpretation of the phrase is the culture of the Perl community. I'm not sure what "cultured programming" even means, but I'm pretty sure that's not what we'd be covering :-) On the other hand, perhaps I should just give the domain (with MT installed) to a group of interested people and let them decide what it's about. “A blog about cultured programming in general sounds really interesting!”
This is one of the problems we had the last time I tried to get this going. It was hard to get agreement as to what “Perl culture” was. I’m pretty sure that the most interesting interpretation of the phrase is the culture of the Perl community. I’m not sure what “cultured programming” even means, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what we’d be covering :-)
On the other hand, perhaps I should just give the domain (with MT installed) to a group of interested people and let them decide what it’s about.

]]> By: dagolden.com http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/#comment-102 dagolden.com Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:05:03 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=44#comment-102 I'm less interested in another blog as I am in a better way for the Perl blog community to more consistently tag entries and aggregate them. For example, if I've written about Perl culture, then I could tag it "perl_culture" and some other site could aggregate it. It would be more topical aggregation than happens with the Iron Man project feed. I’m less interested in another blog as I am in a better way for the Perl blog community to more consistently tag entries and aggregate them. For example, if I’ve written about Perl culture, then I could tag it “perl_culture” and some other site could aggregate it. It would be more topical aggregation than happens with the Iron Man project feed.

]]> By: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawmkTH8ioZy-Ar6rp88OKI4zgLt2c2bIZoI http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/#comment-101 https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawmkTH8ioZy-Ar6rp88OKI4zgLt2c2bIZoI Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:15:45 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=44#comment-101 Yes I would like to read Cultured Perl , definitely! I don't think I would qualify to write about it. A blog about cultured programming in general sounds really interesting! Yes I would like to read Cultured Perl , definitely!
I don’t think I would qualify to write about it.
A blog about cultured programming in general sounds really interesting!

]]> By: Dave Cross http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/#comment-100 Dave Cross Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:54:22 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=44#comment-100 "Others" is a slight exaggeration on my part. There was one other. It was called <a href="http://proudtouseperl.com/" rel="nofollow">Proud to use Perl</a>. It's also desperately in need of some love and attention, but that's not as urgent as Cultured Perl. “Others” is a slight exaggeration on my part. There was one other. It was called Proud to use Perl. It’s also desperately in need of some love and attention, but that’s not as urgent as Cultured Perl.

]]> By: szabgab.com http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/#comment-99 szabgab.com Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:49:53 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=44#comment-99 Wait, where are the others? Are they all dead or could you link to them? Wait, where are the others? Are they all dead or could you link to them?

]]> By: xsawyerx http://perlhacks.com/2010/02/cultured-perl-blog/#comment-98 xsawyerx Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:40:24 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=44#comment-98 I would definitely be interested in it. I don't personally know a lot of Perl programmers in the community (hi, by the way :) so I'm not sure I could help write about anything. But I can say I'll definitely be interested in it. I would definitely be interested in it. I don’t personally know a lot of Perl programmers in the community (hi, by the way :) so I’m not sure I could help write about anything.
But I can say I’ll definitely be interested in it.

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