Comments on: Building Web Sites with Perl http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/ Just another Perl Hacker's blog Tue, 14 May 2013 10:48:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Bill Rose http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-7539 Bill Rose Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:57:34 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-7539 Why is MojoMojo called that? That makes it sound like it’s build on top of Mojolicious instead of Catalyst. As I understood it, Mojolicious and Catalyst are unrelated endeavours. Is this correct?

]]> By: Bill Rose http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-7538 Bill Rose Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:56:03 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-7538 Right, well the next job in the Perl Renaissance is to get it back! Find some easy-to-install, easy-to-use software. Make it great. And Perl shall rise again!

So is the answer ShinyCMS, EasyCMS2, WebsiteInABox, MojoMojo or something else?

Or all of the above?

]]> By: dandv http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-63 dandv Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:37:35 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-63 I’ve also been looking for an open-sourced CMS built with Perl, preferably on top of a modern MVC framework, that I could easily extend, but which would be already built and solid. It was easy to choose MojoMojo:

  • built on top of Catalyst, and easy to extend. Adding a formatter to transform {{cpan My::Module}} into a link to search.cpan.org/perldoc?My::Module takes only a few lines of code
  • it’s a wiki with a powerful permissions system. This makes it serve as a CMS (no public editing), wiki (public editing, anonymous (w CAPTCHA) or with registration just like any other wiki), or blog (by adding a comment widget – see example)
  • live preview. The markup that you type (Textile or Markdown) is instantly rendered as it will be displayed to the end user. This simple feature has become so addictive that I write stuff in MojoMojo just so that I can see what it looks like, live.

http://mojomojo.org

]]> By: lathos http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-62 lathos Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:57:11 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-62 Yeah, what they said, we lost it years ago. For low-end CMS stuff, there’s nothing that beats Drupal; certainly nothing that compares to it in Perl, in terms of flexibility and ease of use. I shifted my own site over to it a while back because I got tired of maintaining my own software.

]]> By: ed.pratomo http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-61 ed.pratomo Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:21:57 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-61 CMS for end users? oracle apex is at the top of my list. a bootstrapped CMS – apex itself is created on apex – bundled with oracle database products.

]]> By: Dave Cross http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-60 Dave Cross Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:42:01 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-60 Kiffin,
I’ve already looked at Catalyst, thanks :-)
I’m also well aware of the power of Perl and how well-suited it is for building web applications. My question was more about the applications that had already been built. I wanted to know why Drupal and WordPress seemed to have the market sown up with no competition from a Perl-based system.
From other comments it appears that suitable Perl-based applications may well exist. Which means that we’re back to that old problem of marketing.

]]> By: pdonelan.myopenid.com http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-59 pdonelan.myopenid.com Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:46:15 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-59 Is it ok that we’re in danger of losing the low-end web CMS market to PHP systems?
Dude we lost it years ago!
I use WordPress for small sites that run on shared hosting, and WebGUI for anything bigger.
–patspam.com

]]> By: phillipadsmith.myopenid.com http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-58 phillipadsmith.myopenid.com Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:50:46 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-58 Regarding Bricolage, you can keep on top of the project’s activity — and there is lots — via the quarterly newsletters (that I write) here.
However, a comparison of Bricolage to most of the above-mentioned content-management systems is a bit apples and oranges. WordPress and Movabe Type (until recently) and Melody, are primarily used for blogs. Drupal, though used for a wide-variety of things, also has its roots in blogging and — at times — that shows though.
Bricolage is best suited to building large sites that require a way for non-technical users to create complex documents. Movable Type, WordPress, and Drupal have only (comparatively) recently added “custom fields” and “content types” to accommodate these requirements. Bricolage is definitely not well suited to be (primarily) a blog (though several sites do use it as such).
And, typically, Bricolage requires far more experience to install. Though, there are VMware images for those folks that want to give it a try first. And, these days, the installation is possible in about 30 minutes on a Debian server just by following the instructions.
If you’d like to see the (AJAX-ified) state of the current Bricolage UI, you can find a short screencast here.
Hope that helps.
Phillip.

]]> By: pshangov.myopenid.com http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-57 pshangov.myopenid.com Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:09:15 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-57 Shameless plug: I just recently released Miril. I wrote it specifically because I found Drupal too cumbersome for most of the tasks I needed, and Bricolage and Krang – too difficult to install. Here are some screenshots.

]]> By: Snarkout http://perlhacks.com/2009/09/building-web-sites-with-perl/#comment-56 Snarkout Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:07:09 +0000 http://perlhacks.com/?p=26#comment-56 Kiffin, I don’t think Dave wants to build a CMS.
I don’t have any experience with Krang, and I honestly don’t know anything at all about Spine. Both Bricolage and Krang were designed to run periodical-type websites, IIRC (Bricolage for Salon.com, Krang for Motortrend), so they may not be as flexible for general CMS purposes as you want. (WebGUI might be a possibility there!) Like Movable Type, Bricolage builds static pages, which has its upsides and downsides.
I haven’t used Bricolage since evaluating it in 2006 for a project, so I can’t speak to the current state of its UI.

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